Justice for John!

1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,526 And I doubt you will either.

2 00:00:01,526 --> 00:00:05,326 So head on over to give send go if you're able to, and help

3 00:00:05,326 --> 00:00:06,574 the Allen family out.

4 00:00:06,574 --> 00:00:08,398 That would be much appreciated.

5 00:00:08,398 --> 00:00:10,158 Now, Ron, let's pivot.

6 00:00:10,158 --> 00:00:11,878 Let's pivot a little bit.

7 00:00:11,878 --> 00:00:14,102 Tell us about this case in Texas.

8 00:00:14,102 --> 00:00:18,214 This is another really interesting case.

9 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:19,166 Absolutely.

10 00:00:19,166 --> 00:00:21,214 It's in Dimmitt county.

11 00:00:21,214 --> 00:00:22,886 We got a lot of counties in Texas.

12 00:00:22,886 --> 00:00:23,614 All right.

13 00:00:23,614 --> 00:00:24,686 And this.

14 00:00:24,686 --> 00:00:26,886 But you'll recognize where this is.

15 00:00:26,886 --> 00:00:31,978 Okay, so eagle pass, del Rio, Chorizo Springs.

16 00:00:31,978 --> 00:00:33,826 This is another border case.

17 00:00:33,826 --> 00:00:38,442 And, you know, I'm so happy to report, and this was a

18 00:00:38,442 --> 00:00:38,978 homicide.

19 00:00:38,978 --> 00:00:44,290 This was a first degree homicide case, Tim and Brian, where

20 00:00:44,290 --> 00:00:51,354 I had this teenager who was groomed and subsequently

21 00:00:51,354 --> 00:00:55,282 sexually assaulted by his high school counselor.

22 00:00:55,282 --> 00:01:01,126 And then during the confrontation, he was forced, in

23 00:01:01,126 --> 00:01:04,950 desperation, to kill this counselor.

24 00:01:04,950 --> 00:01:07,158 In desperation and self defense.

25 00:01:07,158 --> 00:01:11,654 And the prosecutor, this is another one of these

26 00:01:11,654 --> 00:01:13,694 prosecutorial activists.

27 00:01:13,694 --> 00:01:18,254 They decided that they were going with the sexual predator,

28 00:01:18,254 --> 00:01:24,638 a known, longtime sexual predator, against this boy that

29 00:01:24,638 --> 00:01:30,006 had never been in trouble, this quiet young man, this quiet

30 00:01:30,006 --> 00:01:34,814 athlete who was just scared out of his mind.

31 00:01:34,814 --> 00:01:40,686 And when we got the cell phone for the sexual predator, his

32 00:01:40,686 --> 00:01:43,574 name was doctor Carlos Pena.

33 00:01:43,574 --> 00:01:53,680 We downloaded an amazing 350,000 text messages to kids, to

34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,488 students.

35 00:01:54,488 --> 00:02:00,400 And we found eight additional victims of this man.

36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,720 And the county prosecutor knew all about it.

37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,008 The investigative agencies, of which there were two, knew

38 00:02:08,008 --> 00:02:09,160 all about it.

39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:17,328 They never looked at one single victim and completely

40 00:02:17,328 --> 00:02:20,216 discounted what John Michael Alvarado said.

41 00:02:20,216 --> 00:02:21,058 Completely.

42 00:02:21,058 --> 00:02:25,226 And he called up after he was forced to kill Pena.

43 00:02:25,226 --> 00:02:29,834 He calls up the sheriff's department in Dimmit county and

44 00:02:29,834 --> 00:02:32,074 says, you know, I killed him.

45 00:02:32,074 --> 00:02:33,122 I'm here.

46 00:02:33,122 --> 00:02:34,434 He was waiting for them.

47 00:02:34,434 --> 00:02:38,250 He had his hands up, and they arrested him at the scene.

48 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:43,674 He was 100% cooperative with investigators, told his story,

49 00:02:43,674 --> 00:02:45,962 and son of a gun, if they.

50 00:02:45,962 --> 00:02:50,664 They didn't arrest him for first degree homicide.

51 00:02:50,664 --> 00:02:54,104 And just an amazing story.

52 00:02:54,104 --> 00:02:56,288 You know, we talked at the top of the hour about how the

53 00:02:56,288 --> 00:02:59,440 United States Postal Service had been keeping an eye on

54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,952 this woman who was ripping them off.

55 00:03:00,952 --> 00:03:04,944 Her postage ended up being to the tune of $150 million.

56 00:03:04,944 --> 00:03:10,144 It seems that like those investigators, these investigators

57 00:03:10,144 --> 00:03:14,400 here went to the FBI school of terrorist watch list

58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,352 watchers, because these people always seemed.

59 00:03:17,352 --> 00:03:19,302 Oh, yeah, they were known to law enforcement.

60 00:03:19,302 --> 00:03:21,590 And we've been keeping an eye on this person, and yet

61 00:03:21,590 --> 00:03:24,758 nothing ever gets done until there's a precipitating event

62 00:03:24,758 --> 00:03:25,974 like this.

63 00:03:25,974 --> 00:03:26,414 Yeah.

64 00:03:26,414 --> 00:03:31,702 And, you know, here's a theme going back with George Allen

65 00:03:31,702 --> 00:03:32,766 Kelly's case.

66 00:03:32,766 --> 00:03:38,398 The way that both investigations were conducted and the

67 00:03:38,398 --> 00:03:43,518 attitude and demeanor and the lack of oversight by the

68 00:03:43,518 --> 00:03:46,714 county prosecutors that kept pushing these false narratives

69 00:03:46,714 --> 00:03:47,786 were identical.

70 00:03:47,786 --> 00:03:51,002 You know, the cases were completely dissimilar.

71 00:03:51,002 --> 00:03:51,962 Completely.

72 00:03:51,962 --> 00:03:55,890 But the way that law enforcement and the county, and by the

73 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:59,202 way, as I think I might have mentioned before on your

74 00:03:59,202 --> 00:04:03,586 program, I'll bet you 99% of the public doesn't even know

75 00:04:03,586 --> 00:04:06,970 that district attorneys, county prosecutors are actually

76 00:04:06,970 --> 00:04:10,346 badge carrying law enforcement officers that have a law

77 00:04:10,346 --> 00:04:15,654 degree and they work as district attorneys or prosecutors.

78 00:04:15,654 --> 00:04:19,222 They can make arrests, they supervise the investigations.

79 00:04:19,222 --> 00:04:22,318 And what was really embarrassing in this case, like in the

80 00:04:22,318 --> 00:04:27,798 Kelly case, is they, the lead investigator admitted that he

81 00:04:27,798 --> 00:04:30,902 never did any follow up whatsoever.

82 00:04:30,902 --> 00:04:35,638 And we played the videotape like we did in the Kelly case.

83 00:04:35,638 --> 00:04:41,300 We played the videotape of him badgering this poor 17 year

84 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:47,244 old kid who was, who was beyond traumatized.

85 00:04:47,244 --> 00:04:51,812 They interviewed him like 2 hours after and this kid's

86 00:04:51,812 --> 00:04:55,052 blood pressure is through the roof and he's crying.

87 00:04:55,052 --> 00:04:58,404 And when the jury saw that and they saw the way that he was

88 00:04:58,404 --> 00:05:01,580 being badgered by the lead investigator, I think that was

89 00:05:01,580 --> 00:05:02,588 the end.

90 00:05:02,588 --> 00:05:06,364 I want to give a wonderful shout out and thanks to my

91 00:05:06,364 --> 00:05:10,508 partner on this, retired Lieutenant Robert Prevost of the

92 00:05:10,508 --> 00:05:14,628 San Mateo County Sheriff's Department in California.

93 00:05:14,628 --> 00:05:17,452 Bob's been with us on our forensic death investigations

94 00:05:17,452 --> 00:05:19,276 team for about twelve years.

95 00:05:19,276 --> 00:05:24,036 He was amazing before the jury in discounting just tearing

96 00:05:24,036 --> 00:05:25,308 their case apart.

97 00:05:25,308 --> 00:05:29,468 And I came in on the psychophysiology and the human factors

98 00:05:29,468 --> 00:05:33,576 and the self defense part and really educated the jury on

99 00:05:33,576 --> 00:05:38,424 fight or flight and desperation and how the brain functions

100 00:05:38,424 --> 00:05:40,208 and how it doesn't function.

101 00:05:40,208 --> 00:05:43,640 And at the end that, listen to this.

102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,144 And we're so proud of this, the jury got it.

103 00:05:47,144 --> 00:05:53,384 And it took them only 70 minutes to reach a unanimous not

104 00:05:53,384 --> 00:05:56,304 guilty verdict on all charges.

105 00:05:56,304 --> 00:06:01,744 And at the end, after they read the verdict, the jury

106 00:06:01,744 --> 00:06:07,096 foreman hugged our defendant, if you can imagine the

107 00:06:07,096 --> 00:06:08,184 emotions.

108 00:06:08,184 --> 00:06:13,464 And I have never seen such a supportive family.

109 00:06:13,464 --> 00:06:18,352 Now the biggest shout out goes out to the criminal defense

110 00:06:18,352 --> 00:06:20,272 attorneys in this case.

111 00:06:20,272 --> 00:06:25,576 The lead criminal defense attorney is Brian Powers out of

112 00:06:25,576 --> 00:06:26,960 San Antonio.

113 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:32,096 And what a pleasure it was working for Mister Powers and

114 00:06:32,096 --> 00:06:33,528 his legal team.

115 00:06:33,528 --> 00:06:39,800 They just, his co counsel and his paralegal were just

116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:45,624 amazing during this presentation of our defense.

117 00:06:45,624 --> 00:06:46,800 Wow, wow.

118 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,888 Great shout outs and great news on both counts.

119 00:06:50,888 --> 00:06:52,912 We sure appreciate you joining us.

120 00:06:52,912 --> 00:06:56,868 And again, if you want to help out Mister and misses Kelly,

121 00:06:56,868 --> 00:07:02,676 go to give sendgo.com George Allen Kelly.

122 00:07:02,676 --> 00:07:05,540 That's a l a n k e l l Y.

123 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:09,604 George Allen Kelly is where you can go to support them.

124 00:07:09,604 --> 00:07:12,428 Doctor Martinelli anything else you need to throw out there?

125 00:07:12,428 --> 00:07:14,908 Any other shout outs, any other websites or places we need

126 00:07:14,908 --> 00:07:18,228 to point our favorite people watching the show right now?

127 00:07:18,228 --> 00:07:21,828 Well, you know, I think John Michael Alvarado also has a

128 00:07:21,828 --> 00:07:23,276 legal defense fund site.

129 00:07:23,276 --> 00:07:26,766 I don't know if it's give, send, go or Gofundme, but it's

130 00:07:26,766 --> 00:07:29,302 John Michael Alvarado.

131 00:07:29,302 --> 00:07:33,446 I think if they just google that and say defense fund,

132 00:07:33,446 --> 00:07:35,606 maybe something will pop up.

133 00:07:35,606 --> 00:07:41,094 But I've got to tell you what a wonderful, wonderful family

134 00:07:41,094 --> 00:07:42,998 John Michael Alvarado has.

135 00:07:42,998 --> 00:07:44,614 They filled the courtroom.

136 00:07:44,614 --> 00:07:48,366 The court clerk said they'd never seen anything like that.

137 00:07:48,366 --> 00:07:51,334 But, you know, when you see that, it just makes you shake

138 00:07:51,334 --> 00:07:56,744 your head again about these prosecutorial activists.

139 00:07:56,744 --> 00:08:01,144 What is going on in the United States of America, where

140 00:08:01,144 --> 00:08:07,384 your advocacy is supposed to be for truth and evidence and

141 00:08:07,384 --> 00:08:11,488 you're supposed to be a fact finder and you just discount

142 00:08:11,488 --> 00:08:13,704 every bit of this.

143 00:08:13,704 --> 00:08:15,376 It's absolutely amazing.

144 00:08:15,376 --> 00:08:20,192 And it's scary because the very people that we vote for to

145 00:08:20,192 --> 00:08:23,584 protect us, they don't protect us at all.

146 00:08:23,584 --> 00:08:24,312 Yeah.

147 00:08:24,312 --> 00:08:31,376 And I mean, thank God that we have people like Brian Powers

148 00:08:31,376 --> 00:08:36,584 and his legal team, and they were nice enough to invite us,

149 00:08:36,584 --> 00:08:41,296 Mister Prevost and I, into this case to help them out.

150 00:08:41,296 --> 00:08:45,600 And like I said, a shout out to Martinelli and associates,

151 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,144 justice and forensic consultants.

152 00:08:47,144 --> 00:08:50,364 Right now we're batting 100% on acquittals and murder cases.

153 00:08:52,534 --> 00:08:55,998 Amazing group of people that I get to work for.

154 00:08:55,998 --> 00:09:00,262 You know, you see me on television, but it's my, it's my

155 00:09:00,262 --> 00:09:00,750 people.

156 00:09:00,750 --> 00:09:02,342 They make me look good.

157 00:09:02,342 --> 00:09:05,710 Clearly, there's a big team there, and we sure appreciate

158 00:09:05,710 --> 00:09:09,054 your whole team and you for everything you do.

159 00:09:09,054 --> 00:09:11,990 As Timothy would say, you're doing the Lord's work and we

160 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:14,134 appreciate it very much and we'll look forward to having

161 00:09:14,134 --> 00:09:15,326 you on again real soon.

162 00:09:15,326 --> 00:09:18,106 That question that you asked about the legal system, I

163 00:09:18,106 --> 00:09:20,218 would normally say that's the million dollar question, but

164 00:09:20,218 --> 00:09:22,946 the fact that George Allen Kelly and his wife are $2

165 00:09:22,946 --> 00:09:27,026 million in debt makes me feel like it is the bazillion

166 00:09:27,026 --> 00:09:27,842 dollar question.

167 00:09:27,842 --> 00:09:30,890 I'll just make up a number because that's what they do when

168 00:09:30,890 --> 00:09:32,650 they want to go after you.

169 00:09:32,650 --> 00:09:33,042 Okay.

170 00:09:33,042 --> 00:09:34,770 Ron Martinelli, thank you so much for joining us.

171 00:09:34,770 --> 00:09:35,442 We appreciate you.

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